Category: Let's talk
I think this article says it all.
I have run into this in recent years and become intrigued. Like a lot of American Whites, I have grown up basically with no real racial identity except the idea that our ancestors raped and pillaged. Now bear in mind I understand the thought that race is merely a human construct, one I have for the most part embraced in my life. But what interests me is not so much race as we know it, or so-called white, which was a division of labor in the 16th century. But pre-Roman indigenous culture from Europe. There's a lot more about this out there now, but a lot of it assumes you are looking for forms of spirituality, a subject I am mainly on the fence about and tend to stay away from the mumbo jumbo. But I am intrigued by this: something other than what you learned in Western Civ, Greco-Roman history, the High Middle Ages, the Renaissance and the like.
You know, it doesn't surprise me that the conquering state, Rome, would first paint previous European societies as savage barbarians and then color history in their own light. People have attributed the rubbing out of indigenous European cultures to Christianity. In part this may be true, as it was a foreign religion brought from the Middle East and still even today bears much Middle Eastern philosophy, though it's been Greco-Romanized as the State Religion for 1500-plus years. But I think had Christianity not been there, Rome's own pre-Christian religions would have been used to stamp out local ones.
As I said, I'm not really interested in the religion aspect beyond its cultural influences but it's clear that Europe's early history was rubbed out by the victor, Rome.
Also, current DNA tests show that most "white" (Non-Mediterranean European) people can directly link their ancestry back to the peoples of Ice Age Europe.
This is all interesting to me, because you know we all think jungles, and dark skinned, and exploited, when we think indigenous peoples. And yet, you know, I imagine the Celts and other groups were probably pretty exploited by Rome.
As I said, I never used to even ponder this stuff, I can see some younger people on here laughing at me for it. I certainly would have, and probably did, at your age. I'm not really sure what the search is, or what it could possibly turn up. But I've always been fascinated with the middle and upper paleolithic era. And yet, I'm as modern and urban as one could get.
Anyway, interested what you all think regardless of your ancestral background. For the record, I actually don't know mine since I was adopted and have yet to take a DNA test to find it out, though my daughter wishes it and I probably will.
I just find it interesting that it comes from the First Nations peoples of North America they think we can really reconcile if we first learn of our own heritage and roots. I don't know if that's true or not, or what that even means. But I personally have an interest in roots before Roman exploitation of Europe. I personally think the exploitation you read about in history now, about how whites have conquered and destroyed, can be traced to Rome. Theirs was the largest and most full-scale worldwide conquest, theirs the most advanced military and propaganda machinery to perform the societal version of find and replace.
Anyway I'm interested in what anyone else thinks of this or knows about it. It's all new to me, since I never even considered any of this before.
So far I have also listened to a bit of Celtic music though of course what would be indigenous for us would be quite difficult to figure out.
Anyway, I know it's not popular but thought I would just put this out there in case there were any other "not populars" out here lol
I've recently wondered how far back I could trace my ancestors. If it wasn't for the history course I am taking it wouldn't have crossed my mind. Though I am not religious I do find it interesting how big a part religion played in history. I recently learned about the division of Catholicism and Protestanism in England, which if I am not mistaken, is still the most popular religious practice in America. The hard ache people had to face back then is astounding.
I only know about my grandfather's grandfather's history, and nothing before that. But it would be interesting to see how far back my family history could go, if I had the money at some point I would do it.
Hmm interesting. My main interest is pre-Romanized pre-Christianized Europe, which was the last vestige of the paleolithic peoples.
So as I said, I'm not necessarily interested in the religions for religion's sake, but more the mythology that makes up the prehistory of our people.
We have learned in schools since the 70s about all other pre-Christian religions and cultures, except for our own. Christianity and other aspects of Romanized culture that are in European ansd American society, in fact many of the traits associated negatively with being white, are from the East, not from Europe.
I found the following site interesting:
Odin.org.
So I got my results back from the Genographic project, to find I am mainly British with a little Romanian.
Also found I am 2% Neanderthal and 3% Dinesovan when it comes to pre-homo-sapien DNA.
This has all been interesting to find out and I've still been trolling around looking at European folk info, pre-Christianized pre-Eastern-influenced. That is as much a part of us as is Cicero, Christ, Socrates, or others who were brought from the East and either placed in the schools / courtroom, or forced conversion via the Charlemagne conquests in the 7th century.
I should add, as a former culture vulture, I now can more really appreciate others' struggles. Not in the mealy-mouthed 'oh, we whites are so bad" stuff you got in the schools, but just learning about this stuff, and my own connection to it, I would say I have more appreciation of other cultures now. Even more than when I traveled overseas as either a student or on business. Even more than the cultural immersion things I was involved in when I was younger.
You can really appreciate the struggles of other groups when you find you actually belong to one, and see the results of your ancestors' struggles in your own society.
For those unfamiliar with the term, "culture vulture" is a term some African and Native American communities have for many of us whites who, having no sense of belonging ourselves, try to go adopt pieces parts of everybody else's, just to try and find a way to fit in, or find some connection.